The UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) reported that an investigation by its human rights team found that some 90 civilians were killed, including 60 children, during operations carried out by international and Afghan military forces on Aug. 21 in Shindand district in Afghanistan’s western Herat province—contradicting claims of the US government.
“I am really alarmed by the number of casualties caused by this air-strike and other similar military operations,” the Secretary-General’s Special Representative for Children and Armed Conflict, Radhika Coomaraswamy, said in a statement. “Children are bearing the brunt of this Conflict and also experiencing physical and psychological trauma.” (UN News Centre, Aug. 27)
See our last post on civilian casualties in Afghanistan.
Air Strike in Afghanistan
This is a disingenuous account by the International media regarding this air strike in Afghanistan, and is a pure case of circular and biased reporting. The UN Humans Rights Team in Herat stated that they have oral evidence from villages only – which is far from compelling evidence. They have not sent any Internationals to the scene to verify the claim by the villages due to the security situation in the Western Province, and there is no physical or forensic evidence to support this claim as yet. This is because of Muslim tradition that all the bodies of the dead be buried asap.
However, I am not saying that there weren’t any civilian casualties – what I am saying is that we really don’t know the facts yet. What is clear is people were killed in the air strike. Exactly who was killed (Insurgents vs Civilians) and the numbers are not verified as yet.
Until a proper investigation is conducted, and the real facts of the matter established – these claims of 90 civilians and 60 children killed in this incident are still unverified.
James Sadler
Consultant in Afghanistan
“convincing evidence”
The above report is not from the “media.” Rather, it is to the media—it is a press release from the UN. The following Aug. 27 AP report backs up what you say:
So, for whom are you a “consultant,” Mr. Sadler?
Bill,
In reply to your
Bill,
In reply to your comment – I don’t know the full story of what happened in Shindand District, Herat Province, and like you wait to see the outcome of the investigation. My point was that the media reported what was at this stage an unverified allegation as fact – in essence a sensational headline to grab everyones attention – to illustrate here are some media headlines –
e.g. ‘UN confirms killing of 90 civilians by Coalition air raid in W. Afghanistan’ – Xinhua Online, ‘UN says Disputed US Airstrike Killed 90 Afghan Civilians’ – Voice of America News, ‘UN accuses US-led fores of killing Afghan Civilians’ – Irish Sun, ‘UN finds Airstrike Killed 90 Afghans’ – Washington Post, ‘ US-led air strikes killed 90 Afghans, UN finds’ – National Post – Ottawa Citizen.
The UN media release clearly stated that its team only conducted verbal interviews, no bodies, no photo’s, no forensic evidence etc, and that the investigation is ongoing. And from this – the media report that the UN definitively claim that 90 Afghans were killed in the attack. It’s a weak case at this stage put forward by the media, which it seems everyone has jumped on.
I wait for the facts….. that’s all, and that was my point.
Same as it ever was
Right James, while you wait for the facts (just the facts,ma’m) another 90 third world nobodies are massacred under american bombs, like at least 20,000 Afghanis since 2001, or over a million in Iraq since the invasion. And who knows how many Pakistanis on the border…
Does it matter really? Does anyone think any member of the Bush-Cheney regime will ever see the inside of a courtroom to answer for that, they have a word for it, “collateral damage”? I for one don’t hold a candle to that Utopian day, those bastards will die of old age just like Reagan who funded the massacre of thousands of Nicaraguans and Hondurans, or Nixon who bombed the hell out of thousands of Laotian or Cambodian peasants from a safe distance.
Reality Check
Hey Leo….. you do know there is a war in Afghanistan don’t you? And, whether you like hearing this or not, those nations that are here in this worn torn nation are doing a lot of good. There have been a lot of mistakes made, but generally the country is a lot better off than it was in 2001 under the Taliban. How do I know this? Because I’ve been here on the ground with Aid Agencies and the UN working for the last 4 years.
There is still a long way to go before this country and it’s Government/people are back on their feet and enjoy the comforts and liberties you enjoy. It’s very easy to criticize from afar in the safety of your ‘Utopian’ reality – where good is bad and bad is good. It’s quite a different matter living and working here amongst it on the ground.
Another reality check – there are actually bad people out there! – the kind that don’t think twice about killing innocent people in suicide attacks on a near daily basis, the same kind of people that flew planes into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon. I don’t hear the same outcry about their tactics and the people they have killed in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I’ll give you a recent example quote – ‘The Taliban have intensified their suicide campaign over the past week. Taliban bombers have struck in Islamabad, Karachi, Lahore, Peshawar, Wah, Dera Ismail Khan, Swat, and Bannu, killing more than 170 Pakistanis and wounding more than 240’ (The Long War Journal) – where’s the outcry over this from the international community? ………… silence…………
I support Human Rights and the respect for life and property, and yes, as the West our leaders and countries need to as well. We are held to a higher standard. However, one must remember that your reality, and the reality on the ground are two very different things.
Reality Check, yourself
Leo’s assumption that his greater political truths make “the facts” irrelevant is certainly simplistic and annoying, but let’s try to keep our eye on the ball here. The reason there is no outcry from the “international community” over Taliban suicide attacks is that the Taliban (unlike the US and NATO/ISAF) does not purport to act in the name and interest of the “international community”! The “international community” is supposed to be fighting those guys. It is assumed that their tactics are atrocious. Issuing press statements decrying the Taliban’s tactics would legitimize them. Is that what you want?
Above Comment
Leo – FYI, the above comment was mine – I forgot to change the name when I posted it.
James
More convincing evidence
From AP, Sept. 8:
Pentagon confirms Afghan civilian casualties
From the New York Times, Oct. 8:
From US Central Command, Oct. 8: